Are you constantly juggling between decisions made by the heart and those by the mind?
Well, Carlos and I are here to open up this Pandora's box of the mind-heart conflict. We uncover the implications of being too dependent on either emotions or logic, and how a balanced amalgamation of both is crucial for sound decision-making.
Do you trust your intuition? We share our thoughts on the all-important role of intuition, especially in decisions involving people. This episode unearths the three-cornered relationship between instinct, intelligence, and intuition in decision-making.
We challenge the oft-held belief that our education system is primarily intellect-centric, and lay emphasis on trusting our intuition. Drawing parallels from the success stories of giants like Apple, Amazon, and Elon Musk, we demonstrate how intuition has often been the driving force behind their pioneering decisions.
How much weightage do you give to emotions when deciding? Carlos and I broach the subject of emotional decision-making, debunking the stereotype that men are less emotional than women. We delve into the hazards of disregarding emotions in our decisions, and how our quest for happiness is intrinsically linked to our emotional state. Wrapping up, we provide insights into how you can reconnect with your inner truth, listen to your intuition, and make emotionally valid decisions, not just in personal life, but in the business world too. So tune in, and let's explore the universe within us!
0:00: The Battle Between Heart and Mind
6:27: Trusting Intuition in Decision-Making
19:33: Emotions in Decision Making
29:22: Emotions and Decision Making
40:22: The Importance of Emotional Decision Making
Thank you for listening. If you have an idea or message you'd like to share, send us a message: Olivier Egli and Carlos Basurto
Are you constantly juggling between decisions made by the heart and those by the mind?
Well, Carlos and I are here to open up this Pandora's box of the mind-heart conflict. We uncover the implications of being too dependent on either emotions or logic, and how a balanced amalgamation of both is crucial for sound decision-making.
Do you trust your intuition? We share our thoughts on the all-important role of intuition, especially in decisions involving people. This episode unearths the three-cornered relationship between instinct, intelligence, and intuition in decision-making.
We challenge the oft-held belief that our education system is primarily intellect-centric, and lay emphasis on trusting our intuition. Drawing parallels from the success stories of giants like Apple, Amazon, and Elon Musk, we demonstrate how intuition has often been the driving force behind their pioneering decisions.
How much weightage do you give to emotions when deciding? Carlos and I broach the subject of emotional decision-making, debunking the stereotype that men are less emotional than women. We delve into the hazards of disregarding emotions in our decisions, and how our quest for happiness is intrinsically linked to our emotional state. Wrapping up, we provide insights into how you can reconnect with your inner truth, listen to your intuition, and make emotionally valid decisions, not just in personal life, but in the business world too. So tune in, and let's explore the universe within us!
0:00: The Battle Between Heart and Mind
6:27: Trusting Intuition in Decision-Making
19:33: Emotions in Decision Making
29:22: Emotions and Decision Making
40:22: The Importance of Emotional Decision Making
Thank you for listening. If you have an idea or message you'd like to share, send us a message: Olivier Egli and Carlos Basurto
When it comes to the important decisions in our lives, who wins? The heart or the mind? This is, let it be known, with Carlos and Olivier.
Speaker 2:Recently people have been not at the funny part, they haven't been asking directly about this, but this is real, the real question. What we just said Making a decision right, but the decision is should it be made with your heart or with your brain?
Speaker 1:So, oh my god, the two, the two voices inside of us that we have to somehow account for in every choice that we make. It's, I think this is the the story, the story of mankind, it's kind of the conundrum of being a human being. It's how do you? How to satisfy a satisfied but also quiet the peanut gallery?
Speaker 2:yeah, no, seriously and you said you know, I know a lot of our topics are usually, you know, what us men are thinking about applies to everyone, but it's, you know, mostly man, because it's coming from our perspective and so for, but this one you just said mankind, yeah, like it's crazy because I think, I think this is a great you know, is there a right or wrong now on this?
Speaker 1:see, this is because this is like. This is the problem right, right or wrong. When it comes to the decision, we always approach it with the right of wrong, correct mindset. Right, and this is already the first problem, because it means that if we look at something as a right or wrong answer, we look at it through the mind automatically. It's logic, right logic.
Speaker 2:One's a binary outcome, correct but I think where I was going. Let me rephrase my I think people will use the heart in the brain to justify the decision they made, and I think that's, I think that's already, like you said, where we're coming off. Right or wrong, yeah, no, no, I don't think it's right or wrong when it comes to brain or heart, but which one? I mean, you got to pick one.
Speaker 1:But here's, here's a thing, though in Disney has to do a lot has a lot to do with with biology and the way our bodies work. So we have a mind right and in the end, every decision is made by the mind. It's just the romantic nature of language that has introduced the heart as part of the decision-making process. But when we say heart, we actually mean a specific part of the brain that does not comply with logic. So when we say mind, we mean the logical mind, the one that works with information. It takes information, processes information against experience and then spits out an answer. But the other part, the one that's hard to understand because it does not comply with reason, that is what I call intuition. So the better way to look at the problem of the decision-making that we're facing, and now specifically as man, because as men, we're taught to rely more on logic. You know, we are taught socially more to be reasonable man, which means we have to rely and relate more to our reasonable brain.
Speaker 1:But the problem is what is life about? What is life about? Life is not about reason. Life is about an emotional experience of life, because if you remove emotions from your emotional experience, you're left with nothing, there's nothing left. Life is literally nothing but the emotional reality of it.
Speaker 1:If you don't experience joy when you see your kids, might as well not be there, right. Right if you, if you don't feel happiness about your day, might as well stayed in bed. If you didn't feel anything when you look at your partner, might as well not have a partner at all, might as well not be alive. So the emotional reality is really the core of our experience, not the reasonable one. But now, emotions in our mind are created in different areas, but the thing is that the reasonable mind. So when you say, oh, I've got to make a decision, the mind speaks against the heart, the heart against the mind. The problem is that if we only relate to one or the other, we only relate to one part of the picture. So if you only relate on the mind, you only rely on the mind, you only rely on information that's available, information like spreadsheet information.
Speaker 2:I. I mean now to give the listeners a little bit more perspective on how this came. So let me give you an example, and then we can go from this and give me what your thoughts are on this. Is this okay? I have to let someone go? Hmm, I know it's the right thing and I did it, but then, after I did it, why do I feel so shitty about it?
Speaker 1:I feel bad you said it's the right thing. What makes you think it's the right thing? We were?
Speaker 2:let's just say the person was looking at the our company a different direction than we were. We just were bumping heads. They think our company should go this direction. I own the company, I'm going this direction and we just have to part ways. Sometimes you just have to accept the fact that we're just not meant. You know, and we're not in the same boat. And the person and you know that you are the one who has to make the final decision do they stay or do they go? Now you know, hey, it's time for that person to go, because it's just not healthy for the company. So you let them go. But then something in you and maybe you don't say anything about it, because I know a lot of people won't. But within themselves because I've been in that position, you know, back in the days, it's like it was best for the company. That's what I know, because the company is doing better now. But why do I feel like shit?
Speaker 2:yeah because, so now you start thinking like fuck, did I mess up? Or should I listen to my heart, because you know some people in this world will tell you just follow your heart yeah and some people would be like you know. Get the emotions out the way. Do, do what you have to do the right thing. Use your brain on it yeah, yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 1:This is a very, very great example in showing how the many layers of decision-making human decision-making that involve other people is functioning. You have to look at it a little bit like instinct versus intelligence versus intuition. These are the three parts that play into the whole decision-making. Instinct is the first thing. If a person is threatening you, if you're threatened by a situation, instinct will make the decision for you. For example, someone is stealing from you right in a company. It's not a matter of reason, it's not a matter of the heart. You feel threatened. You will kick that person out. You will, unless you want to have the conversations. They're like what is behind it. But you will automatically, instinctively. Your action, your decision will be preserved, will be preservative. Right will be like what can I do to preserve the integrity and safety of my family, of my company? You will get rid of right, the, the agent that acts against it. But then you have this delicate balance between information or intelligence where, like, it makes sense that this person goes away because either you can't afford that person, or that person is not aligned, or this person is talking back, or this person is, you know, not willing to subordinate whatever. But the intuitive part, that's the one that teaches you from inside, that says hey, I want to be compassionate with this person, I want to understand this person, I want to understand how this person feels. What made this person do this and what could I have done better? What could I have done differently?
Speaker 1:And I always advise I personally always advise for people to use intuition as the first line of decision making, because what makes us human is our ability to relate to other human beings, to not just walk in their shoes but to share their pain. And this is not a difficult thing. We are hard people at first. We are hard people with a mind. We're not mind people with a heart. So what makes us us are our emotions.
Speaker 1:As I said before, the emotional reality of life is what makes life life. It's not the intellectual experience of life. That would be horrible Like, oh, I'm able to dissect my environment into information and data and this is how I experience my existence. That would be a horrible way to do it, to constantly have to relate on data and information. We want to feel, and your problem was that in that decision making is that the way you feel about the situation is not aligned with the way your mind rationalizes a situation. Right. They're opposed.
Speaker 1:And now the question is did you allow for the emotions if you're in tune with yourself to first set the context of the decision making and then add information to justify or to make the decision more valuable? Or did you allow for yourself to be completely ripped apart by the two, you know, by the two decision makers within you, and then choose one, because ideally those two work together, they have to work together, but the problem is that if you don't give one the priority, the other one is just put aside, and that makes you then feel bad. It's like you decide. If you had done it the other way around, you might have thought oh, am I missing out on information that I don't have? But first we have to be human beings.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Especially if we deal with other human beings, we have to give priority to our inner teacher, and the inner teacher is the intuition. How do I feel about a certain situation? It's the first thing you have to ask yourself. And if you're able to make all your crucial decisions and I'm talking about the big decisions that involve human lives and big, big steps I'm not talking about like, which yogurt should I choose from?
Speaker 2:you know the dairy aisle right.
Speaker 1:Because there it comes to habit and to lust and all these things. But when it comes to the big decisions, you have to ask yourself what is the emotional reality behind this? How does it make me feel? And if you ask your mind, if you ask your inner teacher to give you an answer because you're in tune with yourself but it means that you have to trust yourself the answer will come from the intuition, from intuition. Intuition will tell you hey, let's figure out a way, let's have a conversation, and then, if the conversation fails, then the mind usually jumps in. But that is.
Speaker 1:That is a problem that we face. Our entire education system only trains the intellectual mind. Wow, all we have. We have to turn 35, 40, 45, 50 and go through a crisis to reconnect with our inner teacher. We don't trust intuition in the business environment at all until we haven't reached the midlife crisis, when we feel shitty about our jobs, horrible about our businesses. That's when we start to investigate where all the decisions are made in the past. We're based on something that was not valid. Yes, they were based on market data, on, on on available spreadsheet information, on, on the experiences of other people, everything that the mind loves, the logical mind but the intuition hates. When do we ever learn to trust ourselves?
Speaker 2:That's a that's a good question when, when? Because when you're young, you don't trust yourself. You trust what other people are telling you. You trust what other people, just because of their status, you know whether they're at your like. Oh, they, they know. If he says you know, make a decision based on this. That's why I'm going to make a decision on. So you're right. When do you actually start trusting yourself?
Speaker 1:All the big companies that are, that you know that, that were founded by one person that we call visionary, that were, of which we see a few today. They were not the results of logical decisions, none of them. Apple makes no sense.
Speaker 1:Right the beginning of Apple made no sense. What Elon Musk is doing makes no sense. There's no rational foundation behind the, the first set of big decisions that were made behind Amazon. You know these companies that now have developed into these. You know these Monsters, these corporate monsters, where you can have your opinion on that. But the initial Spark, the initial decision to make it happen, to move forward and to move forward in a relentless way as they did, was all driven by intuition. Those people are so into with their own inner teacher that they knew this is the right thing to do and there's no Rational explanation for that.
Speaker 1:The little that we know about a person like Steve Jobs and the way he made decisions, we know that some of them were like weird, strange, made no sense, entire, like blocks of board members Pushing against because there's no market for that. There's no evidence for that. He did it Nevertheless. He insisted on it, because that's what makes us visionaries, that's what makes a genius a genius. Right, I'm gonna do it anyway because it feels right. So that is the source of any big decision. It's what we call the heart, what I call intuition.
Speaker 1:If you listen to that inner teacher, you will always make decisions based on your truth and as opposed to exterior Information that might not be valid anymore tomorrow or even just by the by the time the decision is over, right, but if you make decisions based on your intuition, it's based on inner knowledge, and inner knowledge beats outside knowledge Any day. Look how you choose your partners, how we choose our partners. Yeah, we can choose a partner rationally. Oh, you know Good DNA, good, you know social standing, good conversationalist, I don't know. You know, check mark, check mark, check. Who wants to live like that? Right, who wants to live like that? We allow in so many parts of our lives. We allow the feelings, our feelings, our gut feeling to take over and make decisions. But then, when it comes to business decisions, we don't. When it comes to our business, suddenly we become these mathematical, binary, logical monsters that try to split everything into good and bad and Into a spreadsheet. That's not how life works. That's why our decisions feel strange or wrong, right?
Speaker 2:And you have hunt us. You're absolutely right, because the way I make a back, you know before this conversation was my personal decisions were totally a whole different approach than a business decision and, and like you said, you know, you always want to use your intellectual truth to make a decision.
Speaker 2:Intuitive, intuitive and it's just one of those things where I think a lot of people think that just because it's a business and it's not more of a personal like your personal decision that you have to make a decision that you're not gonna be okay with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but see, you just said it, your decision, your approach to decision-making business, is different than your personal right right. It's like you're being two people.
Speaker 2:Yes you can't do that because, but see that, that's what people, that's what's been taught, and show like, yeah, you know, you got it, you got it.
Speaker 1:You know your business owner.
Speaker 2:now You're different, or you're, you're this person, you're a leader, you're, you're a boss like it's.
Speaker 1:It's the exact opposite. The business should be the reflection of your true self, that is. You know that that is something for a different time. But why do we draw a line between the things we do and the things that we stand for as horrible? The things we do should represent the things we stand for, and therefore our decision-making in business should be Absolutely aligned with that intuition we use outside of business. It should be the same thing. This, this is the only way, actually, that our businesses and our work will ever matter to us when it becomes a matter of the heart.
Speaker 1:And, and I tell you again, the three eyes right eye, eye, eye, which is, which is intuition, and instinct and intellect. Okay, so instinct, actually, is the first one. Why? Because if there's danger, you got to be ready to run away, right, you duck. If someone's trying to shoot at you, this is okay, but that's not what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1:Our decision-making on the daily is not about instinct. Even though we make it look like it is, it's not so we're safe with good. So now, in the next phase, it's about intuition. How does it make me feel? How does it? What emotional reality does it create? What does what does it sustain? Right, the emotional reality of a big decision, for example, if you decide, if you have to decide, should I, should I sell my house and move away? Okay, right, you can be an idiot and try to look at the pros and cons. Well, the pros of staying here is like I save on taxes and I know already the best restaurants in town. The cons are it's really boring and it always rain. Who wants to decide? Who wants to make big decisions in their life based on that right? Nobody.
Speaker 1:The question is more like what is the emotional reality I live in right now and what is it that I emotionally need that I could find if I made this change? And suddenly you realize my heart needs new space in order to express itself. I I'm, I've run out of emotional space. I'm sick and tired because the place I live in doesn't really give me a room to breathe, or I need a change. I need a change because I feel trapped, or maybe also, no, I don't need a change. I'm making all this shit up. I'm actually good at all I need is to find time and space to be alone at home and reconnect with the place I live in.
Speaker 1:Oh, you just owned your emotional reality. So any decision you make now is based on your inner truth. Because you had that conversation and Now that that's done, now you can ask your intellect and, by the way, if I made this decision, that's what the pros and cons would be. But that's more like that's now just to use your mind not to justify an emotional decision, but to kind of like make it completely palatable for your mind as well, so that your mind can support your emotions. The thing is that your logic should be operating in support of your emotional reality. Right as I always say, your mind, your intellect, should support your happiness, not your happiness support your intellect.
Speaker 2:You know it's crazy you mentioned something in this conversation just right now that you have to make a decision for what you stand for. You don't have to change someone. You're not. You know and it's funny, though, because I go back to like have I ever encountered this? And when I first started the school, I was making decision on what to stand for, which was good. Then, you know, along the way, got a business partner in this and that, and I wasn't making decisions anymore for what I stand for. I was making decision because I was implemented like oh, this is the business way, this is. You know you were the owner's hat. You know emotions are out, this and that, and the business wasn't doing well.
Speaker 2:Long story short. We went separate ways and I went back to my roots. I guess I can say that I just started making decisions on what I stand for and what I want to do Me, as far as worked out, it's been great Dead I mean there you go. But I never saw that one until you just said it. Right now, like you know, make a decision on what you stand for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the thing is that you know what that makes you do. If you make a decision based on what you stand for, or rather, you make a decision that supports a deep emotional intention in your life, okay, and the emotional intention of our life is always the same. Our intention is to be happy, to explore our happiness and to express our happiness. That is the intention of life, that's what keeps us alive, because without that, what is left? Nothing. But now does your decision making support that intention? Right? And if it does, if it does, you have full accountability for your decision making. Like, yeah, I decided that because you need it to happen, because my happiness deserves that, because that's what I needed, versus, oh, yeah, you know, all the factors point towards it. Well, the facts has just changed. One now, huh, one now. And you can I think you can compare it very much to what happens with the political climate in this country, where people have to make a decision, you know, every couple years for their commander in chief, right, and the problem is that most people make they think that is a it's a rational conversation. It's not. It's an emotional conversation, and the problem is that we have a hard time understanding what the candidates actually stand for and how it, how it, how it relates to our emotional, intuitive, intuitive self, right, how do we feel about it? And we are, most of the time we're angry because none of the candidates really relates to how we feel. None of them really seek seem to support our sense of happiness. So what do we do Now? We go for the rational excuse Well, this guy promised to do this and to do that and that's on the agenda. We all know what happens with agendas they go out flying out the window.
Speaker 1:It's time we understand that living is an emotional matter. It's an emotional, it's an emotional endeavor and our decisions need to support our emotional expansion and happiness, not our intellectual satisfaction. That's. That will never be enough, just like science. If you just rely on science in your decision making, you're in it for a hard like you're going to. You're going to have a hard time Because every day, scientific facts are changing, right, they're changing. So that means that every decision you're making will constantly be questioned because you based it on facts or change. If your decision making is based on your own emotional self, on your desire for happiness, and you make it with your intuition, you never have to question them. You don't have to question the inner teacher in the teacher is the ultimate source. That is the ultimate source of knowing. It's just that at some point when we grow up we all get tossed into this box and then we lose that ability. We lose it because school is all about the rational decision making, the retention of memory. Logic logic gets trained a lot, right.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 1:Logic. We all become these logical animals that make logical, rational experience, rational decisions, but they're still emotional beings. And that rips us apart, because what we do does not relate to how we feel, what we stand for does not relate to what our truth is. So, you feel, when you make a decision based on rationale rather than on intuition, in hindsight there's this bitter feeling because you completely ignored your inner teacher. You just ignored that guy, you know, you just left him out in the rain, even though he was there to tell you dude, it was clear, this is what we need, this is what needs to happen. Yeah, this is what needs to happen. I'm a guy who's I suffer especially from this.
Speaker 1:So, this topic is I have been so abundantly trained I've been trained by my parents and by my teachers so well to rely on my intellect All my during all my school education so crazy how all my decisions were based on rationale. My jobs, my friends, I based everything on does it make sense or does it not make sense. And he broke my heart so many times, so many times. It broke me one final time in my mid 30s, and there was barely enough left to go on until one day I made the biggest decision of my life and allowed my heart to make that decision and from that day on it was only my heart that had the first dibs, you know, and my decision making and my rationale was just used to complete the picture. And now I am that emotional being that has a mind, rather than that mindful being. You know that mind, mental being that had to deal with emotions before. And you know, in business settings I constantly hear that it annoys me. I hear that from upper level management of big corporations.
Speaker 1:We're trying not to deal with emotions here. We're trying to leave the emotions out the door. We're trying for people to check their emotions at the door. How do you do that? Tell me, is there a pill for that? How is it possible? How can you separate the emotional experience from the human experience? How can you check your emotions at the door? You will always be an emotional being. It's bullshit to think that, oh, as soon as you enter this, as soon as you enter this boardroom, there's no emotions in there. It's all emotions, it's all emotions, nothing but emotions. You just use the rationale to paint over it. It does not work.
Speaker 2:You know it's crazy to say that, because I mean, at one point you got to ask yourself, okay, let's just leave emotions and make a decision with my brain. But, like you said, how do you leave that out? There's like, do you take a pill? You turn off, switch, like, hey, no, emotions are off right now, like it's all you can do is suppress emotions.
Speaker 1:You can do that, but, boy, those emotions going to haunt you down, yeah, they're going to, they're going to find you in your sleep and they will torment you. It always have. You're always faced with the bill, always, and you know it's it's. It's so fantastic that it coincides with this show that I that just sadly, just it just got wrapped up. Succession I don't know, have you ever watched succession on HBO? No, but I've heard of it, though I've never seen it though.
Speaker 1:Crazy, crazy show about this media media mogul, this powerful man in media who has three kids, and it's about you know who's going to be his successor, and there's like four, four seasons of just you know turmoil about who's it going to be, and there are all these vultures circling around them also trying to pick at the empire and things like that. And you would think that where there's so much power and so much money in, in, in, in operation, like that, it's all about rational decision making. It's all about leave the emotions out the door and like what makes the most sense, you know, for the continuation of the business. Fuck that the whole show shows.
Speaker 1:So precisely what I am trying to get at here is that emotions are who we are. We are emotions. Our decisions will always happen in the light of our emotions. The difference is just are we going to admit, admit to it and all the emotional aspect of decision making, the big decisions in our lives, or are we going to pretend it's not happening and just sweep it under the rug and say like, nah, I'm not an emotional person because as a man, especially as a man, we've been taught you cannot show emotions. Doesn't work. You cannot let emotions control you. Doesn't work.
Speaker 2:It's a lie. It is a lie because I was going to tell you you can tell yourself you don't have emotions and you're putting your emotions at the door or turn off your emotions, but it's there. I've seen it where people try to come in and show no emotions, but it's there. I don't think you could ever turn it off.
Speaker 2:Like you said, maybe you can depress it and put it away, but, like you said, that's dangerous because it'll come back and haunt you. But yeah, that's so true, man I mean, and guys out there and women out there anyone is just like your emotions are always. I love looking at this. It's always there. So, no matter how much people tell you, put your emotions away, don't let your emotions get in front, it's like it doesn't work. Yeah, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1:It doesn't work and to say that, oh, women are emotional and men are not emotional.
Speaker 2:I just think men don't like to talk about it. Women do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we've adopted this idea that women are more emotional than men, which I completely disagree completely. The problem is just that the rampant rise in mental health issues among men stem first and foremost from the fact that we still believe that that's a reality, that men are somewhat genetically less emotional than women, but we still feel all those emotions is because that story is bullshit. It needs to be updated. We're all completely, 100%, pure emotions. That is just. And we all have the same desires and the same desire, and the desire is just. We just seek to tap into our happiness. We just want to be happy people.
Speaker 1:What is happiness if it's not an emotion, it's not a rational thing, it's not an item on the shelf? Yeah, we want, we chase self-actuation, self-realization, self-fulfillment, joy. We seek all these things, but we seek them in things. We seek them in items, but they live in emotions, they live in emotional realities that we create. Yeah, and the decision making is the moment in time when suddenly time stops and we are asked to be the most human we can be and open ourselves up to an emotional choice, or we can just ignore it, and if we ignore that, we ignore our nature.
Speaker 1:Yeah don't do that and if we ignore our nature, as I said, it bottles up. And when it bottles up, you get sick. You get sick, you get tired, you get physically sick, you get psychologically sick. It's not a good idea. It's not a good idea. It's not.
Speaker 2:It'll come back in and get you. Trust me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and in the end I think it's that. No, I know it's that big, it's that big monster in the background. Again, you know, fear, the fear mindset that tells us that intuition is not a real thing because it's not reliable. Fear, the fear mindset does not allow intuition into our lives because it thinks it's hogwash, it thinks it's not controllable. It will control us.
Speaker 1:Intuitive decisions are bad, they're stupid, they make you look weird and they make you look weak. You need to make a decision. You know a man's worth. You know worthy of a man, yeah, which are defensive, offensive, aggressive, rational. They can be defended in a court of law. You know all these things when really that's bullshit. It's not. It's not true. We lead wars as nations not based on rationale. We lead it based on emotions and fear, of course. But if we were able to say no, even we as a nation, we have an emotional reality of happiness we want to preserve. We would be good to the people. We would not spend our money, our resources, on war, on bad pharma, on poor education. We would actually say what is the emotional right thing, right decision to do for our people, to nourish them, nurture them, to take care of them and to become a people. But emotional decision making systems don't like emotional decision making because it's hard to control. It's hard to control.
Speaker 1:It is and I'm not talking about hormonal decision making, which, which applies to men just as much as to women when hormones take over, it can mess with emotions. I understand that. But the thing is that even then you, if you own yourself, you need to be aware of that and say, like, right now I cannot take this emotion because I'm biased and I'm twisted, I'm torn right now. But a person that says I'm 100% in full ownership of myself, I know who I am, I know what I need, I know what this here needs my business, my family and in that context, I'm making an emotionally valid decision based on the needs I have and what is creative with that decision. You own that decision, whereas you rely on someone else's opinion, on information that come from the outside and social media, the news TV. We know where that gets us right. Oh, my god, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's man.
Speaker 1:These two actors in our mind. They have been fighting since the dawn of man. We always see that there seems to be a warm, emotional self, and then there seems to be the cold, rational self, and in neuroscience it's been identified as the two hemispheres of the brain right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Where our intellectual self, the one that is able of language, the ego right, that has a sense of the self in terms of like, where does our body begin, where does it end? That is the rational self, but that's the one that you know, that kind of draws the simple picture of life, because it only works with data, it works with stimulation. But the other side, the right side of the mind, which is where I would locate intuition, which is the thing that unifies everything, it's the thing that sees beauty in everything, it's the glass half full, or always full, mind that is able of love right, whereas the other one is the one that questions, it's the one that has doubt, it's the one that, based on information, will say like this is not safe, let's not do it. Yeah, preserving mind. These two agents have had inner fights within us forever.
Speaker 2:Oh, and I know people know they just never really talked about and seen it this way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but who do they let have the last word, usually the fear agent, usually True.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Usually the let you know like one bad message is worth 20 good ones, right yeah, because we allow our logical, fearful mind, the one that you know works on information and outside stimulation and outside gratification, we let that one run away with the decision. We'll let that one have much more voting power than our intuition.
Speaker 2:I can see that, though I mean, like you said, it's fear.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, but if you don't know yourself, then your intuition is not present. Yeah, then all you have is intellect, all you have is information, whatever you were taught. But it's about repopulating your, your intuitive mind, so that you can make truly emotionally mindful decisions. If you don't repopulate your mind and say like I'm gonna, you know, go into silence and look within and realize what is the source of my intuition, who am I? Right? And the instant you know that's the person that's gonna make the decisions from now on. And the in the intellect can serve as parliament, you know. It can serve in support, because there are things that the intuition doesn't know, information that it doesn't have handy, because it doesn't work with information. Right, that's why our mind is built that way. So I ask, I implore for people to become holistic, wholesome beings again, yeah, in admitting to their emotional core that has an intellectual layer to it, and not being instinctive, fearful beings that constantly are on the defense. Yeah, because then your decisions will always be defensive.
Speaker 2:Right, no, I agree, I agree, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:Never.
Speaker 2:What's crazy that you know one. Now. You know you go through these feelings and everything. But then you're, you know you you talk about. I mean you're right, like the fear, if I mean standing for what you believe. You know, man, and there's so many decisions out there. I'm going back in my mind right now like how many decisions did I base just of the outside of this stuff? And then the fear of making the wrong decision, not what I believe in, but the making the wrong decision, you know, and I felt like I made that decision by doing the right thing, where in reality, I make the decision based on fear.
Speaker 1:Ah, there you go. Yes, I think that's the big takeaway. If you make your decision based on fear, it will always be a rational decision, because it's the rational mind that wants to preserve you, right, but it's the intuitive mind that wants to expand you. So ask yourself Maybe he has a big takeaway at the end. Is your decision making here to preserve you yourself or is it here to expand you? So, if you just want to fight in order to stay alive, it's the intellect that you have to choose. If you want to live and make decisions in order to expand yourself, to reach more happiness, to bring more of yourself into the world, you have to trust your inner teacher. It's the only way to choose survive or thrive. These are the two options. Surviving is the mind, thriving is the heart. Who do you let be the true owner of the decision making?
Speaker 2:That's perfect. That was it. I mean, I think, right there, what you just said, a lot of people already made it. They made the choice Of what they're going to look into and make a decision.
Speaker 1:The thing is just that, carlos, as we know, it's not as easy as saying like oh, from today on, I'm going to of course 100% based on my decision making, on my intuition.
Speaker 1:Well, you first have to find back to your intuition, because you suppressed it for so long that now it's living in a dark corner deep in the recesses of your mind. So first you have to make space for it, right? Remember? We always talk about that. The creation of space for yourself is the beginning of everything. It's the beginning of your happiness. How are you guys going to make space for yourself so that you can rediscover your intuition, so that you can rediscover the teacher that lives within you, rediscover who you are, so that the decisions you're going to make from this day on are informed by that intuition, that inner teacher?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That is. That is a decision to make today. That is a decision you know. Go back to the source. Reconnect with yourself so that you now have a solid basis for decisions that are emotionally viable to you. Damn, damn.
Speaker 2:But they should also. There's going to be some other episodes that play before that. I'm sure if you guys go back, you know it's going to help you go back and find and create your space. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yes, it's huge, it's huge.
Speaker 1:It's all connected. Yep, it's not that we're very organized. We are, we are, but at the same time, you know the way we decide on the topics. See, that's it, that's, that's maybe like that's how this whole topic self defines itself. How do we choose our topics that we talk about? It makes no rational self sense. It doesn't. It's not. It's not like oh you know, this makes sense that we talk about this.
Speaker 1:No, it's wherever our heart pulls us towards, where we feel like, oh my god, this topic resonates with us and we, we feel like, oh, my god, if the world could have some clarity on this specific question, my god, that would really help people to explore themselves. And that's how we choose. Yep, that's how we choose. And and it also goes to show that if you do that, people will agree with you. If you make emotionally doubted choices, people tend to agree because they also are just human beings with the same needs and and. And then suddenly you know this is how we align right On our topics within a business. That's magical If you can now stand in front of your, of your crew, of your team, yeah, and explain the decision that was made, not just say, um, we need to make 7% more this year, and the reason is the market is blah, blah, blah. People don't give a shit, they don't care about market. Market is not a, not something that's feel for it. It's not something. It's not something they feel for it. It's not something that's real to them. It's emotionally not valid. You're just greedy. You want more money. But if you stand there in front of your crowd and you say we need to up our game because we know there's much more that we can give, there's more value that's stored in us. There's a better job we can do, and this is what would support our mission. This is what would support the value we're here to give. Are you with me or not?
Speaker 1:Now you just switched a completely irrational decision 7% more crunched, crunched the numbers into an emotional realm where people can suddenly relate because they can be like I want us to do a good job. I want to be part of that, I want to feel part of that and not just like I'm just going to work harder so you make more money. No, that people don't relate with that. But you say like we have so much more we could give. People love us, but we're falling flat on that promise and it all hinges on you. I beg you, support me in this, because this is something that needs to happen. It's so important to me. This is all I care about, and you are the only ones that can help me. Who's not going to help that guy? Right, who's not going to help that?
Speaker 2:guy.
Speaker 1:And that's all it takes. It's all it takes.
Speaker 2:Let it be known Exactly.
Speaker 1:You have to let it be known. But what are you going to let? What are you going to let me know You're inner truth? Yeah, without that, without that intuition, all you can you know, all you let people know our information that you forward. That's it. Yeah, you, just you know. It's like when you meet with friends and all you talk about is what you read in the news and what you heard on TV.
Speaker 2:Yes, I want to know about your emotional reality.
Speaker 1:What, what, what's going on in you? What do you need? Right, and you asked me creating space so I can tell you what I need. And those are the makers of big decisions. We're dragging this out because obviously this is a big one, but I think we have to stop here, otherwise you know, we're going to, we're going to drown in this topic. So let's make an emotional decision here, right, and stop. Stop at this point. And, as always, guys and girls, on this one.
Speaker 2:Yes, reach out.
Speaker 1:If you have any more to add to this. We might not have all the answers, but we have a lot of questions.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:And I know that decision making is a big part of the human experience. Don't take it lightly. You, you make important decisions a lot more often than you think, and you might not make it on the basis of anything that's emotionally valid to you, and you're missing out. You're missing out on beautiful decisions that could be made and that could propel you forward. Reach out if you have questions, anything to add or any other topic that you would like for us to discuss, and with that I'm done. What about you, carlos? And I'm done as well.
Speaker 2:And thank you guys for listening and until next time.